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		<title>By: Papoa</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-5215</link>
		<dc:creator>Papoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think that  Greece&#039;s revival is coming, It once used to be the center of the world with its culture and intelligence. After it was crushed by outside religion the people there became an emotional slave, they no longer could think proudly of their culture and histroy, which stopped their progress. The only way Greece is going to become what it was thousand years ago is to bring back their culture and their gods. i congratulate the greeks on taking the step in reviving their culture and heritage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think that  Greece&#8217;s revival is coming, It once used to be the center of the world with its culture and intelligence. After it was crushed by outside religion the people there became an emotional slave, they no longer could think proudly of their culture and histroy, which stopped their progress. The only way Greece is going to become what it was thousand years ago is to bring back their culture and their gods. i congratulate the greeks on taking the step in reviving their culture and heritage</p>
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		<title>By: Atheen</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fantastic that the 12 are being honoured once more and for a certainty it should be within the original temples, it is why they were built.

I&#039;m not sure that we can call the ancient religions non-violent as there is much documented violence surrounding the Olympians, Τροία being a prime example of a war fought in their names on both sides.

However, this is not saying that the religion would be violent now and I do give the Ellinais my full encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fantastic that the 12 are being honoured once more and for a certainty it should be within the original temples, it is why they were built.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that we can call the ancient religions non-violent as there is much documented violence surrounding the Olympians, Τροία being a prime example of a war fought in their names on both sides.</p>
<p>However, this is not saying that the religion would be violent now and I do give the Ellinais my full encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: william beetstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>william beetstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those wishing to use the Olympian Calendar should note that the contemporary Julian-Gregorian calendar does not have a year Zero.  The Christian calendrists apparently considered zero to imply scepticism toward the omnipresence of God.  

If I am wrong, correct me, please, but I do believe we would now be celebrating the year 2784 (776 + 1 [year zero] + 2,007).

I remain persuaded that the Olympian order was a remarkably astute presentation of archetypical features of human action.  For amusement&#039;s sake, I attempted to reconstruct it more formally and found that it would be not unreasonable to include Dionysios, Heracles, Prometheus, Aesculapius, Mnemosyne, Rhea, Dike, and Metis in at least the role of essential &quot;satellites&quot; of the conventional twelve.  

Such significant figures as Hades, Hecate, and Persephone seem to be a negative mirror of the Olympians, but I couldn&#039;t manage quite as systematic an ordering of them as it appeared the Olympians and their associates had, possibly because so many of the Olympians themselves had their shadowy, &quot;underworldly&quot; aspects as well.

Unfortunately all the thinking involved is variously metaphorical or &quot;dialectical&quot; or &quot;teleological&quot; and, orderly though it might be, it&#039;s not the sort of order that would be currently accepted as appropriately &quot;scientific.&quot;  Perhaps, perhaps, it might be better to look at the Olympian religion as something suspended between logic and mysticism, empiricism and metaphor, and like Mother Gaea, capable of giving rise to them both.  After all, that religion developed wonderfully well both as sophisticated art and as the first clearly scientific sort of philosophy.

I congratulate Ellinais on having the dignity, the eloquence, and the fortitude to force contemporary Greece and European civilization in general to confront its single most important intellectual and artistic ancestor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those wishing to use the Olympian Calendar should note that the contemporary Julian-Gregorian calendar does not have a year Zero.  The Christian calendrists apparently considered zero to imply scepticism toward the omnipresence of God.  </p>
<p>If I am wrong, correct me, please, but I do believe we would now be celebrating the year 2784 (776 + 1 [year zero] + 2,007).</p>
<p>I remain persuaded that the Olympian order was a remarkably astute presentation of archetypical features of human action.  For amusement&#8217;s sake, I attempted to reconstruct it more formally and found that it would be not unreasonable to include Dionysios, Heracles, Prometheus, Aesculapius, Mnemosyne, Rhea, Dike, and Metis in at least the role of essential &#8220;satellites&#8221; of the conventional twelve.  </p>
<p>Such significant figures as Hades, Hecate, and Persephone seem to be a negative mirror of the Olympians, but I couldn&#8217;t manage quite as systematic an ordering of them as it appeared the Olympians and their associates had, possibly because so many of the Olympians themselves had their shadowy, &#8220;underworldly&#8221; aspects as well.</p>
<p>Unfortunately all the thinking involved is variously metaphorical or &#8220;dialectical&#8221; or &#8220;teleological&#8221; and, orderly though it might be, it&#8217;s not the sort of order that would be currently accepted as appropriately &#8220;scientific.&#8221;  Perhaps, perhaps, it might be better to look at the Olympian religion as something suspended between logic and mysticism, empiricism and metaphor, and like Mother Gaea, capable of giving rise to them both.  After all, that religion developed wonderfully well both as sophisticated art and as the first clearly scientific sort of philosophy.</p>
<p>I congratulate Ellinais on having the dignity, the eloquence, and the fortitude to force contemporary Greece and European civilization in general to confront its single most important intellectual and artistic ancestor.</p>
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		<title>By: R Clark, R.N.</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>R Clark, R.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, Someone speaking up for us who worship the great dieties of old.  My patron dieties are Gaia, the earth mother, and Rhea, the mother of Zeus. Gaia and Rhea have lead my life for many years to a rich and rewarding life. How honored I would be if I could worship them at the Pantheon.  Please keep me in contact with the movement!  Namaske</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, Someone speaking up for us who worship the great dieties of old.  My patron dieties are Gaia, the earth mother, and Rhea, the mother of Zeus. Gaia and Rhea have lead my life for many years to a rich and rewarding life. How honored I would be if I could worship them at the Pantheon.  Please keep me in contact with the movement!  Namaske</p>
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		<title>By: P Connell</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>P Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning Ellinias, anyone who is offering peace and brotherhood to the world should be encouraged. Look at today religions,any one of them, from pedophile priests, hateful clerics.  Not one of the founders of these religions would accept what is going on in them today. Wealth and power is all it is about for them. Give Ellinian a chance.
FOR GODS SAKE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Ellinias, anyone who is offering peace and brotherhood to the world should be encouraged. Look at today religions,any one of them, from pedophile priests, hateful clerics.  Not one of the founders of these religions would accept what is going on in them today. Wealth and power is all it is about for them. Give Ellinian a chance.<br />
FOR GODS SAKE</p>
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		<title>By: Zeus n&#8217;est pas mort! - Le jardin des retours - LeWebP&#233;dagogique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeus n&#8217;est pas mort! - Le jardin des retours - LeWebP&#233;dagogique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Le mouvement Ellinais serait en train d&#8217;obtenir, contre l&#8217;Eglise orthodoxe grecque (qui représente 98% de la population), de pouvoir exercer son culte dans les sites religieux antiques, comme dans les ruines du temple de Zeus Olympien, à Athènes (photo), où il a fêté le début de l&#8217;année antique (selon un calendrier commençant en 776 avant J.-C.). Il est depuis quelques jours considéré comme un mouvement religieux légal par les tribunaux, au grand dam des orthodoxes, qui considèrent ce mouvement comme une secte, et ses idées comme un retour au paganisme. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Le mouvement Ellinais serait en train d&#8217;obtenir, contre l&#8217;Eglise orthodoxe grecque (qui représente 98% de la population), de pouvoir exercer son culte dans les sites religieux antiques, comme dans les ruines du temple de Zeus Olympien, à Athènes (photo), où il a fêté le début de l&#8217;année antique (selon un calendrier commençant en 776 avant J.-C.). Il est depuis quelques jours considéré comme un mouvement religieux légal par les tribunaux, au grand dam des orthodoxes, qui considèrent ce mouvement comme une secte, et ses idées comme un retour au paganisme. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Gatos</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Gatos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I couldn&#039;t be happier... 

Perhaps a revival of a &quot;pagan&quot; religion is what the world needs.. Then perhaps maybe everyone will stop killing everyone in the name of every, and I mean every, religion, out there.. 

I only see good coming out of this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I couldn&#8217;t be happier&#8230; </p>
<p>Perhaps a revival of a &#8220;pagan&#8221; religion is what the world needs.. Then perhaps maybe everyone will stop killing everyone in the name of every, and I mean every, religion, out there.. </p>
<p>I only see good coming out of this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cerr</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should they not be able to use the ancient Temples?  Why were the Temples built in the first place but as places of worship and respect.  This is what the Ellinais Tradition members are looking to do - it is simply a TRUE Greek Revival.  Blessings to them on their task at hand.  
It won&#039;t be easy in a world such as this.  Still, people of faith *ANY* faith, deserve to have their places to worship.......Paganism was out there longer by far than the more modern versions of Christianity; why should Pagans not be allowed to worship in Temples built BY Pagans FOR Pagans?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should they not be able to use the ancient Temples?  Why were the Temples built in the first place but as places of worship and respect.  This is what the Ellinais Tradition members are looking to do &#8211; it is simply a TRUE Greek Revival.  Blessings to them on their task at hand.<br />
It won&#8217;t be easy in a world such as this.  Still, people of faith *ANY* faith, deserve to have their places to worship&#8230;&#8230;.Paganism was out there longer by far than the more modern versions of Christianity; why should Pagans not be allowed to worship in Temples built BY Pagans FOR Pagans?!</p>
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		<title>By: Denese</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>Denese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I not only find the thought refreshing but the possibility wonderful.  All religions of today are based on the stories, principles and idealism of these ancient faiths.  I agree everyone should have a place of worship for their religious preference.  But keep in mind, there has never been an organized religion in the history of the planet that hasn&#039;t had it&#039;s flaws.  Twenty five hundred years ago the world was involved in civil strife, leaders taking action for known world domination, starvation, poverty and disease.  Infortunately not much has changed in the world since that time. Perhaps, just perhaps, if we could take all of the knowledge we have attained in the last 2500 years back to our roots, maybe just maybe we could make the world what it should have been in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I not only find the thought refreshing but the possibility wonderful.  All religions of today are based on the stories, principles and idealism of these ancient faiths.  I agree everyone should have a place of worship for their religious preference.  But keep in mind, there has never been an organized religion in the history of the planet that hasn&#8217;t had it&#8217;s flaws.  Twenty five hundred years ago the world was involved in civil strife, leaders taking action for known world domination, starvation, poverty and disease.  Infortunately not much has changed in the world since that time. Perhaps, just perhaps, if we could take all of the knowledge we have attained in the last 2500 years back to our roots, maybe just maybe we could make the world what it should have been in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashoka</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good, Hinduism, the Viking Religion, Zorastrianism the Helenic Relgion, and the Relgion of Rome were all once brothers and sisters. The last to survive in Hinduism. It is wonderful that the west is waking up to it&#039;s real roots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good, Hinduism, the Viking Religion, Zorastrianism the Helenic Relgion, and the Relgion of Rome were all once brothers and sisters. The last to survive in Hinduism. It is wonderful that the west is waking up to it&#8217;s real roots.</p>
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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20060418/412/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah yeah i can dig it! more power to them.  anybody know where to find more info on Ellinais?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah yeah i can dig it! more power to them.  anybody know where to find more info on Ellinais?</p>
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		<title>By: saly</title>
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		<dc:creator>saly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks God, all this religions are so destructive today. I appreciate everythig that turns us from radical religious thoughts. People are dying today mostly in the name of religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks God, all this religions are so destructive today. I appreciate everythig that turns us from radical religious thoughts. People are dying today mostly in the name of religion.</p>
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