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	<title>Comments on: The goal of having the best museum in the world</title>
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	<description>Elgin Marbles (Parthenon Marbles or Sculptures)</description>
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		<title>By: Spyros M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spyros M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited last year the British Museum, along with the Science and Natural History Museums. The second and the third introduce the visitor to new worlds, educate the next generations and also prove the huge work made by the British scientists for big time periods in these science fields. 

I wonder what the young British visitors learn in the British Museum; do they simply admire some exhibits that for some reason they cannot visit on the internet, or is it the necessity to learn how great their country was that it could grab whatever from wherever in the world?

Let&#039;s stop being so old fashioned, the Greek nationalism can be sustained by various other means, but what about the British one? Can this nation prove that living on principles means that one applies them first to himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited last year the British Museum, along with the Science and Natural History Museums. The second and the third introduce the visitor to new worlds, educate the next generations and also prove the huge work made by the British scientists for big time periods in these science fields. </p>
<p>I wonder what the young British visitors learn in the British Museum; do they simply admire some exhibits that for some reason they cannot visit on the internet, or is it the necessity to learn how great their country was that it could grab whatever from wherever in the world?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stop being so old fashioned, the Greek nationalism can be sustained by various other means, but what about the British one? Can this nation prove that living on principles means that one applies them first to himself?</p>
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		<title>By: Apostolos X</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord Byron&#039;s, Childe Harold&#039;s Pilgrimage poem continues:

Dull is the eye that will not weep to see
Thy walls defaced, thy mouldering shrines removed 
By British hands, which it had best behoved 
To guard those relics ne&#039;er to be restored. 
Curst be the hour when from their isle they roved, 
And once again thy hapless bosom gored, 
And snatch&#039;d thy shrinking gods to northern climes abhorred! 

Byron was not the only one to protest against Elgin’s actions at the time. Sir John Newport added:

&quot;The Honourable Lord has taken advantage of the most unjustifiable means and has committed the most flagrant pillages. It was, it seems, fatal that a representative of our country loot those objects that the Turks and other barbarians had considered sacred.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord Byron&#8217;s, Childe Harold&#8217;s Pilgrimage poem continues:</p>
<p>Dull is the eye that will not weep to see<br />
Thy walls defaced, thy mouldering shrines removed<br />
By British hands, which it had best behoved<br />
To guard those relics ne&#8217;er to be restored.<br />
Curst be the hour when from their isle they roved,<br />
And once again thy hapless bosom gored,<br />
And snatch&#8217;d thy shrinking gods to northern climes abhorred! </p>
<p>Byron was not the only one to protest against Elgin’s actions at the time. Sir John Newport added:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Honourable Lord has taken advantage of the most unjustifiable means and has committed the most flagrant pillages. It was, it seems, fatal that a representative of our country loot those objects that the Turks and other barbarians had considered sacred.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Apostolos X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apostolos X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK newspaper “The Independent” today, (Sat 20th June 2009), there was an interesting article published, titled “Acropolis now! A museum for the Elgin Marbles”, by Claire Soames, (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/acropolis-now-a-museum-for-the-elgin-marbles-1710787.html). 

The article concludes with the question, “Should the Elgin Marbles be returned to Greece?  Dorothy King - archaeologist and author of The Elgin Marbles book – answers with a “NO”.  

I personally have great difficulty in following her points of view. Her arguments seem to be supportive of actions tantamount to plundering.

I believe Lord Byron in his narative poem Childe Harold’s Pilgrimage, part of which was written when  visiting Athens soon after the “removal” of the Parthenon sculptures by Lord Elgin,  provides a more accurate account:

But who, of all the plunderers of yon fane
On high, where Pallas linger’d loth to flee
The latest relic of her ancient reign;
The last, the worst, dull spoiler, who was he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK newspaper “The Independent” today, (Sat 20th June 2009), there was an interesting article published, titled “Acropolis now! A museum for the Elgin Marbles”, by Claire Soames, (<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/acropolis-now-a-museum-for-the-elgin-marbles-1710787.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/acropolis-now-a-museum-for-the-elgin-marbles-1710787.html'>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/acropolis-now-a-museum-for-the-elgin-marbles-1710787.html</a>). </p>
<p>The article concludes with the question, “Should the Elgin Marbles be returned to Greece?  Dorothy King &#8211; archaeologist and author of The Elgin Marbles book – answers with a “NO”.  </p>
<p>I personally have great difficulty in following her points of view. Her arguments seem to be supportive of actions tantamount to plundering.</p>
<p>I believe Lord Byron in his narative poem Childe Harold’s Pilgrimage, part of which was written when  visiting Athens soon after the “removal” of the Parthenon sculptures by Lord Elgin,  provides a more accurate account:</p>
<p>But who, of all the plunderers of yon fane<br />
On high, where Pallas linger’d loth to flee<br />
The latest relic of her ancient reign;<br />
The last, the worst, dull spoiler, who was he?</p>
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		<title>By: Likourgos Hristakos</title>
		<link>http://www.elginism.com/20090616/2074/comment-page-1/#comment-5476</link>
		<dc:creator>Likourgos Hristakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skew arguments even by the biased journalist, who does not even have the spirit to hint at a position. 
world history, perspectives from Greece, nationalistic greek cause, free entrance at the british museum etc..

Yes, from the country that has created most of the problem region and conflicts in this planet, (India-Pakistan, South Africa, Cyprus, Gibraltar, Northern British Ireland!, Scotland, Wales..., Palestine-Israel, Hong-Kong), it is fascnating to be able to witness your new argumentation.

Cold blooded retorting of ideas, playing with words but avoiding the core of the issue etc..

Could it be that your world art stance only reflects a country that has pilaged literally all ancient civilizations (greek, egyptian, indian, china) and has never had the decency to apologise, ever...

The Germans have learned and thus they have evolved. You my dear fellows dream the glorious imperial past, may the winds of reason sometime awake you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skew arguments even by the biased journalist, who does not even have the spirit to hint at a position.<br />
world history, perspectives from Greece, nationalistic greek cause, free entrance at the british museum etc..</p>
<p>Yes, from the country that has created most of the problem region and conflicts in this planet, (India-Pakistan, South Africa, Cyprus, Gibraltar, Northern British Ireland!, Scotland, Wales&#8230;, Palestine-Israel, Hong-Kong), it is fascnating to be able to witness your new argumentation.</p>
<p>Cold blooded retorting of ideas, playing with words but avoiding the core of the issue etc..</p>
<p>Could it be that your world art stance only reflects a country that has pilaged literally all ancient civilizations (greek, egyptian, indian, china) and has never had the decency to apologise, ever&#8230;</p>
<p>The Germans have learned and thus they have evolved. You my dear fellows dream the glorious imperial past, may the winds of reason sometime awake you.</p>
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