October 28, 2010
The Parthenon Sculptures & the Battle of Ideas – who owns culture
As part of the annual Battle of Ideas, a two day event organised by the Institute of Ideas, there is a debate about who owns culture, where the Elgin Marbles no doubt feature in the discussion. Geoff White from the Marbles Reunited campaign will be one of the speakers there.
From:
Battle of Ideas
Losing our marbles? Who owns culture?
Sunday 31 October, 12.30pm until 1.30pm, Courtyard Gallery Battle for the PastThe ownership of the Parthenon Marbles has been disputed since their removal from Athens in the early 19th century, by Lord Elgin. Some argue the sculptures belong in Greece, where they were carved almost two and a half thousand years go. Advocates of repatriation insist that the marbles are part of the heritage of Greece, and should never have been taken in the first place. Others feel that the marbles are now part of the history of the British Museum, and point out that in their current Bloomsbury home they can be seen in relation to other cultures, as part of world history. But with the opening of the new Acropolis Museum in Athens, a state-of-the-art centre, claims for their return are growing stronger.
The marbles are not the only cultural artefact under dispute. Egypt’s chief archaeologist Zahi Hawass has demanded the return of the Nefertiti bust from the Neues Museum in Berlin, and secured the return of fresco fragments from the Louvre. Supporters of repatriation claims point to the dubious manner in which Western museums acquired their collections, often through colonial looting. Critics counter that for ancient artefacts there can be no such thing as a ‘rightful’ owner: the modern Greek and Egyptian states, for example, are vastly different from those that ruled when the artefacts were excavated, let alone the empires of Ancient Greece or Egypt. Moreover, it is suggested that the insistence of seeing artefacts in their original context undermines the very idea of a museum, which involves a necessary separation from context in the service of a universalist view based on knowledge and imagination. But those in favour of repatration argue the idea that Western museums are ‘universal’ is clearly self-serving, and suggest instead that returning such ill-gotten gains would be a progressive step to healing the wounds of the past.What effects do repatriation claims have on modern archaeology and scholarship? Can political grievances be overcome through the diplomatic use of cultural artefacts? Does the universal museum exist, even as an ideal, or should we respect local and national identities? Where do the Parthenon Marbles rightfully belong and, more importantly, who owns culture?
Speakers
Dr Tiffany Jenkins
arts and society director, Institute of Ideas; sociologist; cultural commentator; author, Contesting Human Remains in Museum Collections: the crisis of cultural authorityDr Paul Thompson
rector and vice-provost, Royal College of ArtKarl-Erik Norrman
founder and secretary-general, European Cultural Parliament; former Swedish ambassador; author, The Meaning of Life? Football’s role in the world and The Crisis of DemocracyGeoffrey White
retired barrister; founder member, Marbles ReunitedChair:
Pauline Hadaway
director, Belfast Exposed, gallery of contemporary photography and photography resource; convenor, Belfast SalonProduced by
Dr Tiffany Jenkins arts and society director, Institute of Ideas; sociologist; cultural commentator; author, Contesting Human Remains in Museum Collections: the crisis of cultural authorityRecommended readings
Contesting Human Remains in Museum Collections: The Crisis of Cultural Authority
Since the late 1970s human remains in museum collections have been subject to claims and controversies, such as demands for repatriation by indigenous groups who suffered under colonization. These requests have been strongly contested by scientists who research the material and consider it unique evidence.
Tiffany Jenkins, Routledge, 23 October 2010A banana republic police HQ maybe, but not a home for the Elgin marbles
I am a restitutionist – but the new museum fails to clinch the case. It is not so much an argument as a punch in the face.
Simon Jenkins, Guardian Comment is free, 22 October 2009Roman art thieves
Was art in ancient times always plundered art?
Mary Beard, Times Literary Supplement, 30 September 2009A Home for the Marbles
How long can the British authorities cling jealously to the loot of their former ambassador to a long-vanished Turkish empire?
Christopher Hitchens, New York Times, 19 June 2009Right the wrongs of ill-gotten gains
The Chinese person seeking to retrieve plundered treasures by bidding for them in an auction was making an important point
Leo Hickman, Guardian Comment is free, 4 March 2009Is it time to start talking about the Parthenon marbles again?
For the first time two prominent staff members of the British Museum have participated in a major cultural event in Greece
Helena Smith, Guardian Art & Design blog, 21 March 2008Enlightenment museums: universal or merely global?
[Although] a universal museum could be invaluable in a world full of conflict and misunderstanding, the credibility of the idea is undermined by its being deployed chiefly as a defense against repatriation claims.
Mark O’Neill, museum and society, November 2004
- Lecture in Bristol – Human Remains: objects to study or ancestors to bury? : November 11, 2010
- Whose Past? Debate on repatriation of artefacts and reburial of human remains : March 20, 2012
- Why you don’t have to like the New Acropolis Museum to support the return of the Elgin Marbles : November 6, 2009
- Are ideological reasons stopping some artefacts from being displayed in museums : October 25, 2011
- Torres Strait islanders reclaim their ancestral bones : March 23, 2012
- A bone to pick with museums : January 17, 2005
- Global heritage – which museums have the right to own it? : March 20, 2012
- Who owns the Parthenon Sculptures – the Battle of Ideas : February 13, 2011
Dimitri said,
10.28.10 at 11:22 pm
To even attempt to use the below quote as an excuse is surely a cheap attempt to play the race card for those that it suits.
“Critics counter that for ancient artefacts there can be no such thing as a ‘rightful’ owner: the modern Greek and Egyptian states, for example, are vastly different from those that ruled when the artefacts were excavated, let alone the empires of Ancient Greece or Egypt”
Firstly there was never an “Ancient Greece”, but only Greeks and the Greek language has been in existence for thousands of years in the Balkans and Asia Minor. The country “Greece” did not come into existence until 1821. Once this becomes a recognised country, then it also owns the culture that goes with that name.
To be Greek is one of belonging, not genetics, colour etc. The UK has a population mix including people from India, Pakistan, Africa. If they now choose to identify as British Citizens, are they not allowed to loby for the return of artifacts etc that may have been plundered by Roman invaders in centuries past?
This is all just a diversion, and is only a matter of time before Parthenon marbles are returned home… Problem for UK however, is that 1/3 of the British Museum would be empty!
Matthew said,
10.29.10 at 1:21 pm
Every time this sort of argument is applied, it has tenuous relevance. Artefacts are as much a product of a place as they are of the people – & in none of these instances has the place itself moved. e.g. the topography around the Acropolis is still the same, the Attic light is still the same, The climate there is still the same etc. There is no sensible way of arguing that the UK is better suited as a location for the Marbles.